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\nSounds more chronological than other seasons, which is a nice change
\nWas so frustrating seeing one GP from like 4 different viewpoints too
\nLike the Monaco 2021 with Charles
\nOr Monza 2020 with Charles
\nThe amount of times I saw the Zhou crash at silverstone in different episodes almost single handedly made me stop watching DtS. I skip that season a lot on rewatches too. I\u2019ll see the crash once and skip to next season
\nYeah with 10 episodes, you\u2019d think you would at LEAST see 10 different races. Past few seasons they\u2019d show the same 5 over and over.
\nI really think they\u2019re starting to listen as I\u2019m sure the viewership has waned a bit. I\u2019d love for it to become something closer to Hard Knocks and NFL films.
\nNFL Films is really the blueprint. They\u2019ve done more than anyone to build up the mythology around American football.
\nThe shots they\u2019ll have with that signature music playing while a football slowly spirals through the air at a pivotal moment in a game/season are always so perfect.
\nI read somewhere that viewership dropped like 5% but it\u2019s still netflix most successful sports docu series compared to the others that dropped between 15-20%
\nJust anecdotally in the US I don't see as many dudes talking about F1 as much, but it definitely has 'settled' with a much larger fanbase after the hype than it had pre-2019.
\n\n\n\nAfter a record breaking 2023, Red bull has a lot to live up to. With one driver slowing the team down..
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\nCheco about to take another L and he's not even driving
\nThey were clearly monitoring Reddit when we were coming up with a new negative Checo stat per day
\nThe episode is just a montage of negative Checo stats, it's 3 hours long
\nWith Buxton reiterating them
\nWhat a way to sign off before he goes to Indy Car
\nIt'd be so funny if he actually goes to IndyCar and somehow wins the Indy 500, because that means he'll be closer to the Triple Crown than Max is.
\nAbsolute cinema
\nYou have to admit, some of those were impressive. \u00a0
\nWe truly were artists with how we curated such stats
\nNetflix about to receive a barrage of hate from Mexicans
\nMore hate. Emilia Perez did not go over well with folks.
\nDid Emilia Perez only go down well with film critics?
\nNot even them. Award ceremonies ate it up in spite of universal scorn from everyone else
\nIt wasn't even reviewed well according to Rotten Tomatoes
\n... did Emilia Perez only go down well with a handful of film critics then? Ha
\nI think the people who nominated the film only read a synopsis and didn't know how offensive it is
\nAs someone who spends way too much time following award shows...
\n\nAward voters have come out and said they voted for Emilia Perez because they "liked the idea of movie..." "saw what it could've been..."
\n\no - o
\n\nIt was poorly reviewed coming out of Cannes where it received the second runner up and best actress prize (for its ensemble of four ladies). Cannes prizes are given by a jury so who knows what the rationale is.
\n\nOnce it dropped on Netflix... that's when the wrath began
\nOpen season when he can't even defend himself
\nNot like he could on track
\nIts why he was so angry with Liam.
\n\nHe was likely told around that time he was getting punted.
\nHe seemed to lack so much self aware how things were going for him, it was really baffling.
\nWas probably told something like "All you have to do is beat Lawson, who is only in his 2nd race this year, in the junior car, and you can keep your seat."
\n\nAnd when he saw Lawson driving away with his seat, he melted down a little bit.
\nMexican minister of defense my ass
\nLike... What are they supposed to say? Lol.
\nOof, I need to see this! Which driver would it be you think???
\nNo Papaya Rules?? Now I owe someone money.
\nnot exclusively called papaya rules but it\u2019s definitely covered in episode 6
\nIt reads more like McL drivers vs strategies, instead of Lando vs Oscar
\nPapaya Rules was a McLaren strategy, so I guess.
\nWhich is kinda what happened
\ngenuinely surprised they seem to be covering the Horny incident rather extensively
\nRight off the bat! Wasn't expecting that either.
\nyeah, it seems to be more chronological than past seasons, which is great, so it makes sense to lead with that but I do wonder if Christian will play as much of a role in the series going forward.
\nI\u2019m sure they will just try to paint it as nothing much like the sport already has despite others questioning it that work within the organization.
\nWatch them use that line in the synopsis as bait and actually make the episode about the Susie Wolff thing.
\n\nedit: typos
\nProbably extremely juicy to dig out something that has been shushed so successfully over the season haha
\nI also thought they\u2019d sweep that under a rug to not push red bull away from next season but maybe it\u2019s heavily biased towards him
\nWonder if Red Bull paid Netflix to make sure the show makes Horner look good.
\n\nSince it would be a good opportunity to try and set the narrative in their favour.
\nWell the trailer had clips of Netflix following the Horners so I\u2019m guessing they will try to make Horner look good. Which means the handling of the accusations will be pretty controversial
\nLet me get my pitchfork
\n"Gay-Rees subsequently went on to reveal to\u00a0The Fast Lane Podcast\u00a0that\u00a0Drive to Survive\u00a0had originally been conceived as a series revolving solely around\u00a0Red Bull Racing\u00a0before it evolved into a series about F1 in general"
\n\nTaken straight from the DtS Wiki page. Would make sense then how the show was structured for the first few years. I first 3 or 4 seasons left like a Red Bull Racing video yearbook, with the others sprinkled in here and there.
\nI mean, given that they were shut out by Ferrari and Mercedes for 2018, Red Bull was the top team left, no wonder they\u2019d follow them. Not to mention Danny Ric was TV gold.
\nDanny & Carlos were who got me to stay invested. I watched back in the Schumacher years, and stopped following for a while. Then decided last year to get back into it, and this show was a great entry point. It allowed me to get to know the grid and get up to speed way faster than internet searches and YouTube videos. So, I am grateful for it, for that reason
\nHonestly, wish they didn't.
\n\nLike. Mention it maybe? But what are gonna get? An episode diving deep into the what's app leak?
\n\nAnd with DTS's reputation, I don't really trust them to not dramatize the situation.
\nidk yet, I'll hold my ultimate judgement until I've seen the episode, but I do think on principle it's good that they are covering it, even if at the end of the day no new revelations are included. Not everyone will have followed this as closely
\nI wont be surprised if it\u2019s portrayed as a nasty rumor spearheaded by other teams to knock Horner off his game
\nWhy not? it happened it should be talked about at least \u00a0
\nIt can\u2019t be anything else they\u2019re alluding to there, surely? Also surprised it feels off brand!
\nEpisode 7 aka Daniel ricciardo waves goodbye to F1
\n\u2018At this point we may as well just call this Drive To Survive Sponsored By Daniel Ricciardo.
\n\nComing soon, Series 8, including 5 episodes titled \u2018what Daniel Did Next\u2019\u2019
\nReferring to Briatore as a legend of the sport is certainly a choice.
\nI can't say it's not true, but I can't say that would be my choice of words either
\n\u00ab\u00a0Infamous\u00a0\u00bb would have been mine to covey the full range of the Briatore experience
\nAssuming these are the Netflix synopses, infamous would get an instant veto by FOM
\nI mean, he kinda was important when Benetton and Renault were doing their things. Doesn't excuse the fact he's a scumbag, but still. You can't have Alonso's titles without him.
\nWell, Hitler was a legend.
\n\nEdit: I think this comment wasn't well thought out\ud83d\ude05
\nCan I quote you on that, selectively and entirely devoid of context?
\nYes, I give you a license to do so in perpetuity.
\n\nSigned, me, u/BuckN56
\nYeah why not lol
\nYou should get this on a T-shirt as a conversation starter about being pedantic.\u00a0
\nWill definitely cause a strong impression.
\nIf he\u2019s American nowadays they\u2019ll see that shirt and say \u201chell yeah get er done\u201d
\nCame looking for this comment. Said 'ew' out loud as soon as I read it. Trying to rewrite history a little bit?\u00a0
\nDepends on what you think legend means. He undoubtedly has had a big part in the history of Formula 1, good parts and bad parts.
\nMy first thought (and I am old enough to watch f1 when Renault was winning championships)
\n\n\n\nLando Norris has spent his career coming second to Max
\n
I guess Lando's entire career is now just some races in the 2024 season
\nI looked it up Max and Lando have 12 1-2 finishes! Three of those are Lando wins.
\n\nAdditionally, there were 6 races where Lando came in 3rd and Max was also on the podium.
\nthat\u2019s actually crazy
\nAll of them came in the last 37 races (1.5 seasons) though:
\n\nSo pretty much since McLaren's 2nd race with the upgrades they've been up there fighting Verstappen, making VER/NOR by far the most common 1-2 over that period:
\n\nBefore that there are a handful of 1-3 finishes from 2020 and 2023, and considering where McLaren was in his first 4 years with them, that\u2019s pretty cool
\nJust F1 or you checked other categories?
\n\nFyi, I'm not saying dts claim is true, just wondering how the junior years were between them, since I know nothing about it.
\nThey never raced against each other in junior categories
\nTIL. Saw a couple of pics of them younger and thought it could've actually been a "old battle" or whatever DTS said
\nNo that one famous karting pic is when they both won their respective categories. Lando was always a few years behind Max as he\u2019s 2 years younger.
\nLando was a couple years younger than Max, so I don't think they ever really raced each other. IIRC Lando became champion in the junior karting category the same year Max became champion in the senior category, for example.
\nHell max only did one junior car season period. Went Florida winter series for first ever then f3 to f1
\nI am actually impressed that they are mentioning the Christian Horny scandal. Kudos.
\nLet's see how they handle it before giving kudos. Could be a 'poor Horner look what he is going through' episode.
\nAfter the whole santa asking the Horner family if "Daddy has been good this year?" in last season, I'm thinking they want to go in on him a little bit.
\nRemember when he told Santa that Max Verstappen was faster than him \u2620\ufe0f
\nI mean it\u2019s drama they didn\u2019t have to manufacture for once
\nI\u2019m gonna be pretty upset if Horner uses this as a way to save face. In the court of public opinion, it\u2019s too late for him.
\nI don\u2019t have high hopes. Same production company made Break Point, (DtS for tennis), where they made an entire episode about top 10 player Alexander Zverev, but failed to mention his ongoing domestic violence court case\u2026
\nwhich is almost overshadowed by a shocking allegation
\n\nHOLD MY COCO PUFFS
\nThis serious stuff along with
\n\n\n\n\nle curse of Leclerc\u00a0
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This shit is incredible
\n\n\n\nCarlos Signs
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They said the line
\nWell they have to find a way to make Monaco vaguely dramatic\u00a0
\n\n... Or at least everything that followed lap one given that was dramatic at least
\nan entire episode dedicated to the singapore grand prix walaoooo
\nTbf, if the drivers are taking more of a lead, that could make it a more interesting concept. Maybe
\nOh no, I didn't say it was uninteresting, It's just exciting as a Singaporean
\nMy bad I thought it was sarcasm haha
\n\nHopefully it's an episode you find delightful
\nMourning the episode called Papaya Rules \ud83d\ude14 It was so perfect with the double meaning of the rules of engagement and rules as in wins.
\nI think that would've been a better title for episode 6
\nDefo, Wheels of Fortune doesn\u2019t really make sense
\nI'm glad we are getting a Monaco episode. Also, episode 7 & 8 are probably going to be the Danny Ric goodbye episodes. *sad noises*
\n7 is apparently Gasly, Leclerc, Albon, Russell, and Lando. They definitely showed Gasly and Russell in Singapore in the trailer.
\n\n\nYeah, I saw that. But DR was *the* story of Singapore, so...
\nEp 7 will probably be just about how hard the Singapore GP was and Ep 8 will be about DR \u201cbattling for the seat\u201d but failing, not just about Singapore
\nI thought it'd be the four and max. But gasly makes sense too. And max doesn't want to be really involved in dts so i get that.
\nI'm honestly shocked they aren't using Lewis winning at Silverstone. I figured we'd get a feel good win episode with Hamilton(Silverstone), Leclerc(Monaco, Monza).
\nAgree! I bet it will be in the discussion of him leaving Merc.
\nOh thank god we aren\u2019t getting 3 full episodes on Haas
\nSpeak for yourself >:(
\nwon\u2019t lie i giggled a little at the carlos and charles episode titles
\nThis sounds like a good season that covers most of the major storylines without manufacturing too much. Especially looking forward to the Singapore episode, which seems like an interesting deviation from the usual format.
\nThey missed out Lewis in Silverstone tho :(
\nThey ignored Silverstone?
\nthey might not have been filming, i believe they pick the races they go to beforehand.
\nOkay this looks like a big improvement over the past few seasons!
\n\nI'm actually especially looking forward to that Singapore episode. That sounds like more of the stuff that was so good in the early seasons.
\nAre they just gonna play RPMs video on the horndog files for EP1?
\nAre they really referring to Flavio Briatore as a "legend of the sport" ?
\nYeah that caught my eyes. I feel like calling him a "controversial figure" would be doing him a favour, so this feels like Netflix was sucking him off.
\n\nIf there isn't a mention about crashgate in that episode then they must have been paid to keep that quiet.
\nIt does sound like some decent choices for the episodes.
\nSounds like the drama is gonna be going from episode 1. I'm excited. This season has a lot of potential with all the behind the scenes stuff going on.
\n\nAnd I'm glad to see there's still a Haas episode. The season seems pretty focused on the top teams.
\nIt's not like there was a shortage of drama this season
\nNo Brazil GP ???
\nno way they dont feature it in 1 episode for a few minutes. guessing it will feature in episode 8
\nIt should be a whole episode, Max madness, Alpine double podiums, Norris post race rage... who give a fuck about Singapore GP seriously
\nNorris rage? You should be a DTS writer
\nI'm trying to think of what they're even referring to. Lando said some stuff this season that was a little bratty, sure. But nothing I can think of with rage lol
\nWill probably be in the Red Bull episode
\nThey never attended it for some reason
\nSeems like there's clips from Brazil, but maybe that's all we'll get from that one
\nWe saw Colapinto crash so it may be somewhere
\nNetflix chooses which races to cover before the season even starts.
\n\n\n\nAlpine has welcomed back a legend of the sport
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Grosjean went back to Alpine? /s
\nHonestly. I'm pretty down for this lineup.
\n\nI was expecting 3 ricciardo episodes and an episode dedicated solely to Gasly and Ocon, and Hamilton moving taking up every other episode.
\n\nMy only wish is that they dedicated one episode to the F2 season. You know, introduce people to some lower ranking faces, show off the 4 rookies coming from F2. Build some hype.
\nReading the descriptions of each episode here and I think most of the incoming rookies will at least be shown once. Antonelli could pop up in episode 3 when it is about Toto figuring out how to replace Lewis. Lawson and maybe Hadjar will show up in episode 8 about Red Bull\u2019s lineup change. Episode 9 looks at both Haas and Alpine so that should mean we get to see Bearman appear while Doohan showed up in the trailer. Colapinto might show up in episode 5 that looks like it will be about Sainz choosing Williams.
\n\nBortoleto seems the least likely to show up. Maybe he gets a quick intro in the final episode that wraps up the season which is unfortunate for him, but I think that has more to do with the fact that Sauber has barely ever done anything with DTS over the years. For example Kimi rarely showed up when he was driving for them a few years back.
\nThe rookies have their own series on F1 TV (Chasing the Dream)! It follows the F2 season each year. I haven\u2019t watched it but I assume it\u2019s slightly less dramatized than DTS because it\u2019s produced by F1
\nalready preparing myself for another rough dts season as a yuki fan. might not even watch cause it'll be pain.
\nAre you saying we shouldn\u2019t enjoy hearing Yuki\u2019s name only as a comparison to everyone else in the Red Bull family?
\nunderdog McLaren?
\nit started the season 4th fastest so probably
\nI am so seated for Episode 1.
\nCarlos Signs is a great title
\nEpisode 2 is an interesting take.
\nCalling Fl\u00e1vio legend of the sport. Yeah depends.
\nI love that they are making an entire episode for Monaco. Truly one of the most emotional races of the past couple of years even though it was boring af
\nSurprised there isn't one specifically about Daniel
\nCheco catching strays like this and can't even defend ayyy
\nCarlos Signs
\n\nPeak
\n>Can underdog McLaren stand a chance...
\n\nwhat underdogs are you speaking of, McLaren had the fastest car for the majority of last season. lmao
\nThe Singapore episode sounds fun, I like they're doing something new
\nRight? The description makes me think of a \u201cbottle episode\u201d of a sitcom
\nI look forward to skipping scenes with Horner tbh
\nNo Lawson or Colapinto episode? Like, 2 drivers got replaced mod season and they are not going to cover it? Even with one of those drivers being Danny Ric?
\n\nedit: nvm, it seems like episode 8 will feature all the Danny Ric/Lawson drama. Still dissapointed that they left Franco and Logan out though, considering that they dedicated DeVries an entire episode on 2023
\n\n\n\nStill dissapointed that they left Franco and Logan out though, considering that they dedicated DeVries an entire episode on 2023
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I figured there was gonna be a full-blown Williams episode, because iirc one of the producers said Logan was talking to DTS a bit more and more as the season went on before Logan was sacked. But also all the struggles they had in the 1st half of the season, too.
\nI can envision how the Franco/Logan episode would go so clearly; Logan crash montage, ominous talking heads from Alex and Vowles, cut-to smiley Franco Colapinto shots, voiceover about this Argentine phenom ... very DTS drama lol
\nAre they gonna show WhatsApp messages of Horny Horners junk and then pan to him saying "Business as usual".
\nBut where are the five episodes focusing exclusively on Alpine?
\nEpisode 5 is going to be on REPEAT
\nUnderdog Mclaren? Lando has been second to Max?
\n\nWTH is this \ud83d\ude02
\nit\u2019s apparently real someone in the comments said max and lando have 12 1-2 finishes with lando only winning 3
\n"alpine has welcomed back a legend of the sport"
\n\nis this referring to briatore?
\nNo, Jack Doohan
\n\n\n\nepisode 10 : underdog mclaren
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I don't think anyone and their mother thinks that mclaren is the underdog anymore around that time \ud83d\udc80\ud83d\udc80
\n\n\n\nThe car is performing, the drivers are excelling - but their strategy might hold them back.
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are they trying to write a narrative that only strategy held them back, cause quite a lot of times it was on their drivers
\nThey gonna make Max and Lando's relationship way more dramatic than it really is, aren't they?
\nEpisode 1,4,5,10 are looking like bangers
\nso we're not getting two random Alpine episodes this time around? Unwatchable!
\nWait.... What?
\n\nAll episodes seem to actually go into the big real stories of the year?
\n\nAnd they're mostly in chronological order?
\n\nIs the DTS director okay?
\nI really hope it's better than last year. In earlier seasons I really liked that they had enough footage from every race to tell a story or two that came out of that race.
\n\nLast year it was "let's profile a driver and oh, there were some races." It was a dud, IMO.
\nI say this as a (male) lover of Real Housewives and a relatively new F1 fan, but is this insane focus on the friendships between drivers new? I find it insanely off putting - it\u2019s maybe a nice thing, but I don\u2019t care at all about the friendships these folks all have. I don\u2019t see this in any other sport I follow.
\nGo look at the engagement on posts from teams about friendships between drivers. It\u2019s enormous.
\nI get that, I guess im asking if this is a social media driven thing, targeting specific fan bases, or a longstanding aspect of the sport that I wouldn\u2019t be aware of. It\u2019s just very unique - golf, for example, doesn\u2019t seem to spend as much time on friendships.
\nThere have always been big rivalries that got a lot of media attention but it's only recently that drivers have had cameras in their faces 24/7
\nSo curious how theyre going to brush over Horner's "allegation". Because they have him on the rest of the show they surely are gonna downplay it or portray it as some smear campaign?
\nHere for the Carlos episode. The internet will fill me in on the rest.
\nUnderdog McLaren in 2024? Did I watch the same season?
\nGet ready for Mclaren and Norris fighting against the Evil Max Verstappen and Red Bull.
\nwhere franco
\ni thought sao paolo deserved its own episode but obviously
\nIs Episode 2 a comedy?
\nI wish there was a Logan/Franco episode
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